Comments on: Tales from the WTF company, part II

By: Toji Leon

Toji Leon — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:49:45 +0000

This is the reply to reply to my comment:
I think that it was ‘Wishful Thinking’ that deceived you. You wanted to quit; not to join (another company)!

The lesson that we can learn is: Interview the interviewer to do ‘The Joel Test’ and rate them.

By: matt

matt — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:56:58 +0000

wow, urmom doesn’t even know how to spell. what a fucking clown.

By: urmom

urmom — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:55 +0000

True about being funny. Learn from it and chalk it up as a story you can tell at the next IT convention.

By: szeryf

szeryf — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:20:49 +0000

urmom: if I hadn’t been fired I’d probably quit rather sooner than later. And I’m not bitching now, I wrote this because I thought it was just a funny story.

By: urmom

urmom — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:56:12 +0000

Haha you write a blog post about WTF-ery(luv the workd btw) when you get fired in the end. I don’t see you writing this if you hadn’t of gotten fired.

It seems everyone in that company got along with everyone except you. *Hint* In a new job play it cool and don’t try stirring up the pot b/c you “think” your God’s gift to Python.

New word to take with you…Bitch-Ass-Ness…your a prime example.

By: bshock

bshock — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:49:24 +0000

I predict you will never regret leaving this place. You’re lucky you didn’t waste more time there.

By: szeryf

szeryf — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:27:35 +0000

troels: the main reason (at least officialy) was lack of dedication and insubordination. But I suspect there might be some other reasons as well. I know it’s not nice of me to accuse them without any proof but I think my teammates could have “helped” the manager make this decision.

By: troels

troels — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:12:12 +0000

It’s not clear from the post; Did she fire you, because you weren’t dedicated enough? Or did she have some other reason? (Such as you not fitting in to the rest of the company … because that might actually be true, from the description you gave)

By: szeryf

szeryf — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:59:11 +0000

Randy: I would do this but I figured it was kind of too early. What would you think if you were a manager and some new guy came to you on his second day of work and said: “All my teammates are complete amateurs. All they do is completely wrong. I need you to let me change almost everything about how they work.” Would you trust that guy or would you trust your older employees? Not to mention that they would probably oppose any actions from the new guy.

By: szeryf

szeryf — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:49:57 +0000

Toji Leon: you have a good point. I should have known better before deciding to work there. But it’s not that I didn’t ask anything. I did and the company looked pretty good from outside: the guys looked intelligent and friendly, they were developing in Python, the CEO told me I would become some kind of a leader, not to mention many social bonuses they offered.

I think that I would have to have a look at their code and discuss it with them to see some warning signs. Another thing is I was a little bit desperate about quitting my previous job and switching from Java to Python or Ruby.

By: Mikael Jansson

Mikael Jansson — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:57:40 +0000

Eep! Strasznie! Dobrze ze jusz tam nie pracujesz

By: nz

nz — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:25:30 +0000

This might not sense to everyone, but I’ll say it anyway. That company was operating in an emotional manner. I realized this as soon as they began goofing around and invited you to look at paint ball guns immediately after the evil phone call. They were trying to involve you and accept you as one of them. They really needed to get unhigh off of themselves and face some objective reality. It sucks to have a stain like “getting fired” on your history, but only a little bit if you have the right story and I think you have the right story. Anyone parsing xml without a library these days is either doing so toward the presentation of some kind of stunt in which the goal is either pedagogy or interrogative design, or criminally clueless.

By: RK

RK — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:34:42 +0000

This is pretty much the same situation I’m in right now. Fresh out of college, and I didn’t know any better. Difference being, that I’m stupid enough to still be here after 6 months… I’m looking though!

By: Nick Olds

Nick Olds — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:02:01 +0000

Ya, I’d say so

By: Alexey

Alexey — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:17:48 +0000

OMG, it was right decision =)

By: Randy

Randy — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:11:16 +0000

You should have gone to the manager so she could investigate the level of incompetency of the other developers. That was why you were brought in, and she was too (HR deals with this), but I am still kinda surprised you were let go so fast.

By: xpguy

xpguy — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:42:52 +0000

Oh, I can’t help feel an urge to help these guys when I read this.

I’m disappointed to see this not turn into a XP-promoting success story.

By: William

William — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:07:45 +0000

How sad. I’ve got some friends at a happy, successful startup. They do full-on Extreme Programming, including great test coverage and going home on time. The believe their discipline is key to their success. Good luck finding a place that knows what they are doing.

By: An

An — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:04:43 +0000

Same as other poster…I’m in the States, and this sounds *exactly* like a company I quit from. Down to nationalities, attitude, structure, genders, everything.

It was my first job, ouch. Now I run my own businesses…

By: Ball

Ball — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:21:21 +0000

i would have fired your stupid do gooder ass too. trying to make the others guys looks bad. Next time learn to just sit and shutup. clown